No money can be spent without a local resolution being passed by the congregation. Whatever the RBC wants - if the congregation rejects it, it's not gonna happen. The local body can even advise the congregation they do not support the resolution. The only power the RBC has is fear. as usual. The local elders are bullied into whatever the RBC wants or they risk being chastised/marked by the Org, even removed. It's all about power. Pathetic really.
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New RBC arrangements/directives
by bud2114 ini joined awhile back and haven't posted much - just lurking like many others.
for the past year or so i have been trying my best to fade away sooner rather than later, but the wife and most of our family have decades of involvement in this mess and well, it's difficult.
little by little i have been sowing seeds of doubt and it does seem to be working somewhat.
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When was Jesus born?
by Anti-Christ inthe wt always put a lot of importance on the subject that jesus was not born the 25 of dec. now my question is why is there two different stories in the bible about jesus birth?
in luke 2 there is one story and in matthew there is an other.
in luke it says that jesus was born during a census when quirinius was governing syria but in matthew it says that he was born when herod the great was still alive.
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James Free
Who knows! Oddly, the only confirmed date is the day he died - Nisan 14, 33CE - yet that is the least believed date of all - millions even believe he is still alive!
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The Fader (Me) at a Restaurant with the Cong. Dubs (long)
by OnTheWayOut inso this fellow from the congregation my wife goes to (and i am inactive from for almost 6 months).
is moving to where the need is greater.
he's an ms, totally indoctrinated loyal jw.
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James Free
Such an honest display of no-love. What total pharisees so many elders are.
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My District Convention pioneer experiences- I fed my kids from the gutter?
by Witness 007 ini wen't to the district convention 2 years ago, the talk was on "sacrifices," a pioneer couple were interviewed by the c.o.
they had pioneered for many years with two kids, the dad worked part time.
they explianed how money was "tight" for them many times.
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James Free
I remember on Pioneer couple in northern Greece. The husband was also on the RBC. He was really lazy! He relied on handouts to feed his wife and himself. Worst of all was his attitude. I will never forget how he would quote Paul and say he deserved to be helped by the other brothers. He really upset me one day when he accepted a regular donation from a brother who was a vegetable market trader. This guy got up at the crack of dawn, went and bought produce and then sold it in the local market. When I asked if this generous hard working brother was an elder, the pioneer scrounger said "Oh no, he puts work before spiritual things." I stood open mouthed - if it wasn't for this generous man he and his wife would go to bed hungry!
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Ask Jehovah anything you'd like...
by nvrgnbk inbet you he doesn't answer.. (this wager does not include the ongoing conversation between jehovah and jcanon).
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James Free
Where are you? Where is Jesus? All I can see are broken promises.
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WT monitoring JWD? Absolutely!
by fedorE infrom channel c (today).
you may have read something similar to this before but the specific details are interesting.. this was put on a uk forum by an xjw called gordon...he gave me permission to use his post.. .
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James Free
Hmm, well firstly, about spying on users of other sites with spyware - I don't believe a word of it. And an IP address does not identify the user, just their general location.
As for knowing the IP of who visits their own site - hence the Vatican info - this is perfectly normal and most major sites employ exactly the same demographic statistical analysis.
The third part, that of monitoring all Internet traffic using the WT network - again, normal for most large organisations and businesses. That's why you can read of sackings/warnings being given to staff from time to time for downloading Porn. Even internal email is monitored. It happens everywhere - so we need to avoid getting too paranoid, not them! -
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UK- JW MINISTERIAL SERVANT SERIAL RAPIST
by DannyHaszard inman escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
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James Free
I don't think he is an Elder any more:
"The church said yesterday it would support him. But it denied claims by Porter's sister that he would continue to come into contact with children through his religion and visit families.
A spokesman said: "He will be carefully supervised."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,2155269,00.html
Does it matter that he was an Elder before? YES! The WT claims elders are appointed by Holy Spirit. Yet this pervert was abusing baby boys before his appointment. As for repentance - he confessed AFTER one of his victims said they were going to the police. Yes, he was sorry AFTER he was caught. If you say the WT and GB may have a doctrine wrong - they throw you out, condemned to spiritual death - even when years later they admit they were in fact wrong - but leave pedophiles inside the congregation. Pathetic! And this is the TRUTH? If you are a WT lurker, think about that.
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UK- JW MINISTERIAL SERVANT SERIAL RAPIST
by DannyHaszard inman escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
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James Free
Yes, it appears he may have been a Ministerial Servant in in Portishead or Clevedon, and is, or was, an Elder in Mill Hill congregation, London now.
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UK- JW MINISTERIAL SERVANT SERIAL RAPIST
by DannyHaszard inman escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
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James Free
"Does it make one damn iota of a difference if this molester was a elder or not??? If Danny made a mistake what of it?"
Sorry flipper, but you are out of line. What was commented on was that the added words looked like a part of the quotation when they were an addition. And that is a valid objection. Objecting to that does not make someone a JW apologist, nor someone who condones the actions of this pedophile in any way!
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UK- JW MINISTERIAL SERVANT SERIAL RAPIST
by DannyHaszard inman escapes jail for sex attacksbbc news - 1 hour, 42 minutes agoa jehovah's witnesss gets a community sentence for a series of sex assaults on children and adults.man escapes jail for sex attacks porter was put on the sex offenders registera jehovah's witness has escaped a jail term after admitting a series of sexual assaults on children and adults in clevedon.
michael porter, an elder in the religion, pleaded guilty to 24 counts of indecent assault and gross indecency on 13 victims aged 18 months and older.
among the individuals were others involved in the faith.
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James Free
"I cannot believe that Jehovah would condone this behaviour by the pervert or the organization."
I remember another case - the man was a peeping tom and saw a woman taking a bath. He took her to his house and they had sex. He then arranged for her husband to be killed in order to cover it up.
The laws of that land dictated that he was to be put to death for fornication and murder. But he was let off by a sympathetic judge.
Who was the Judge? Jehovah - and the man? - King David!
David was not a pervert, as far as we know - though he slept with a young girl called Abishag even when he was an old man - but he was personally let off. (His innocent child had to die instead??)
So, don't rely on Jehovah to do anything at all - this guy Porter needs to be exposed and punished by the courts, which have so far failed to do so, and by the public at large. The Internet is fantastic - it is even possible to see him listed as an Elder and trustee. Now all need to be told about it to bring shame to the WT and the man himself. He should be made to feel too ashamed to even leave his home! And the WT - I hope as many as possible complain about it on the doors and contact the London Bethel with their disgust.